nice, but

teaching newfags how to not be clueless newfags is the more pressing issue, teaching them minor skiddy skills can come later

also burying this /i/ deeper and heavy-handedly banning people wouldn't work too well seeming as this place isn't exactly teeming with manpower at the moment.

>>1548
That's essentially what the videos would do.
And the burying/banning isn't for here, it's for all the /i/s. I propose the plan here because Rockstarchan is relatively cancer-free.
Of course, this is a rough draft of a plan, and needs refinement.

>>1549
well, some /i/s are just too well known from past raids where 4chan users used their board to achieve the only temporary success it's seen, and burying it deeper or making it hard to find wouldn't do anything as people already know the domain by heart anyway.

quarantining (removing all links to and from the rest of /i/ to it), and using it as a kind of cancer-bunker would be the only way of managing it

>>1546

As a semi-newfag who prefers researching and lurking to opening my mouth and being an idiot, I think this is all a really good idea.

Videos would be incredibly helpful, because we can do all the learning we want but nothing is going to teach us acceptable/unacceptable behavior like some good old fashioned 'training'.

One drawback I see might be that idiots will always be idiots, and too much consolidation of links/information/resources could give tards way more power than they know wtf to do with responsibly.

>>1551
bunkers get torched relatively easy because of the sheer amount of cancer and people trying to take control of insurgency itself. it always backfires really bad

>>1551
Right, that's what I'm suggesting. Quarantining it is so that we slow the flow of new people.
>>1552
Also being a semi-newfag, I can confirm this.
Although I disagree on one point. Idiots won't always be idiots, they'll become banned idiots.
>>1553
Which is why we need Nazi-mods. And, possibly, training videos for new mods. Maybe.

I'm trying to think of some subjects for videos. So far I've got:

*Some basic shit you should know before you watch the other videos, like some info on /i/ and how to act on here without looking like a faggot
*Raids that are forbidden and why
*Attack methods (Trolling, denial of service, gathering dox, using dox)
*Basic tutorial on using IRC, like clients, commands, etc.
*Using the wiki

Any others?

>>1564
-Networking
-*Unbiased* overview of operating systems
-Social engineering? It'd be hard, because it's basically a psychology course.
-Basic HTML / JavaScript
-Maybe some overview of cell phone tech? I can see a lot of /i/ moving into the smartphone department.

We can also make more if we think of them after the main videos are made.

>>1565
Thanks. The reason I'm asking for ideas is because I'm thinking of using a text-to-speech program to make voiceovers. After all, some people learn better by listening.

>>1566
You might want to use Audacity instead, and distort your voice. Text to speech tends to be hard to understand.

>>1562
you misunderstand. "quarantining" it the way you are suggesting would do nothing as 711chan.org/i/ is already hugely well-known. removing links to it is pointless because it has no secrecy left to protect

quarantining that particular /i/ from the rest of /i/, for example the wiki and other /i/s would be more effective

>>1569
Right, and there's nothing we can do to stop people who already know about it from knowing about it, but that's not really the point. The point is so that people who DON'T know about it won't have an easy time finding it. For instance, some faggot who heard about Anonymous can't Google "INVASION /I/ LOLOLOLOL" and find us.

Quarantining one /i/ from the rest of the army wouldn't have much purpose.

This is it boys.
Anonymous is getting back what it has lost...
It's final bossness

>>1572
reunite the chans
make anonymous scary again
we'll regain solidarity instead of forcing ourselves into further shadows and further breaking up the numbers

>>1574
The hell?

/i/ is not supposed to be "scary". We're just a bunch of bored nerds who like to fuck with random people online for the hell of it.

And the "shadows" is where we belong. If we stay hidden and pin the blame on other people, we won't have faggots coming in.

>>1575
don't know bout you but i was never a nerd
i do this for epic justice

>>1577
You had better be fucking trolling.

>>1577
I sincerely believe that you need to GTFO.
Right now, you're pretty much the kind of person this thread was designed to get rid of.

/r/ing a 5 day ban.

>>1571
you don't have much idea about website exposure and promotion do you?

people finding sites is 99% word of mouth(/forum discussions/blogs/blah)

>>1580
Nah, really? I never knew.
Go Google "/i/ invasion." What do you find? Well, on the first page the only /i/ links are these:

http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://knowyourmeme.com/forums/general/topics/493-where-can-i-join-an-i-invasion-site
http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtaEH0kVc_Q
http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://encyclopediadramatica.com/I/

Of those, which have a link to /i/ on them? Just ED.

Now, if you just came to the *chans and you want to find /i/, where do you go? ED, or 4chan. The odds of finding /i/ on 4chan are slim, but ED has it right there.
If we can convince ED to keep links to /i/ off of the site, that would be marvellous.

Next, what if you're trying to find this "Anonymous" you heard about? Well, you'll probably get to /b/ first. But there's not much of this epic faggotfaceer coolness you heard about, huh? So you either ask /b/, or you go somewhere else. THERE'S your word-of-mouth. But have you tried asking /b/ where to find /i/? It's not a hopeful prospect. See attached picture.

In summary, most of our site promotion comes from Google and ED.

Not to say that I think you're wrong, I'm just elaborating on what I'm proposing we do and why. Do you see what I'm saying? Not to be a dick about it or anything, but you're not exactly being helpful.

>>1583
still not how it works.

*some* people find /i/ through your means, if you removed these means i bet it would slow the newfag influx by 5% max

also 711chan admins don't care about their /i/ that much, they prefer the epeen-enhancing idea that it's most active than actually good, and certainly won't robots.txt their way to less activity. and looking at /i/ on ED, it was rockstarchan staff that added their /i/ to the links at the bottom, so again you're at cross-purposes with the people who actually matter.

>>1587
Whatever, nevermind.

partyvan.info

mission accomplished

>>1593
Whoah, whoah, whoah. You're telling me that partyvan.info is better at teaching than videos specifically designed to teach?

>>1595
He has a point, because a lot of the info newfags need is on the wiki... all they need to do is just read it.

Except that's the thing, half the people who come in are too fucking lazy to read a few articles and instead want to bug everyone else for information and waste time.

i think there needs to be heavy focus on NOT taking credit for our raids. This is what newfags dont understand. "OMG GUIZES, WE R GUNNA BE FAMOUS HAX0RZ" is the kind of attitude i see in raids nowadays. The goal is to pin the blame on other people and remain in the shadows.. never taking credit for anything. the more exposure we get the more cancerous faggots show up.

>>1600
That should be part of the plan, and mods should ban for signs of trying to make a "name" for the chans. But I'm pretty sure that banning moralfaggy raids, etc. would clear most of them out.

Also, we could really use a robots.txt.

The reason I say that is because there are some people out there that like to regularly google their username or website URL to see who knows about them. I remember when we tried a raid on a small forum, and it was ruined because the owner googled the URL of his site, found /i/ and the raid plan, and proceeded to shut everything down.

>>1600
i /partially/ agree with this...
we should leave /little/ traces so people know we exist

Let me know what you think of this. I was quite drunk when I wrote it and it's tl;dr, but I think we need to address certain points, particularly regarding the direction of /i/nsurgency.

>>1596
Right, and that's the thing. People either don't know it's there, won't read it, and the wiki is down a lot. Plus, the wiki lacks a lot of things we need to teach people. If we were to make videos that were designed to teach them these things, it would make it a lot easier, and people wouldn't be asking us where to get tools.
>>1608
People will ALWAYS know we exist. We can't help that.
>>1609
I'll start reading.

>>1614
>Right, and that's the thing. People either don't know it's there, won't read it, and the wiki is down a lot. Plus, the wiki lacks a lot of things we need to teach people. If we were to make videos that were designed to teach them these things, it would make it a lot easier, and people wouldn't be asking us where to get tools.

If people can't be assed to help update articles or write a paragraph, how do you think they will be assed to WRITE IT ANYWAY, and then on top of that create a video--video tape it, probably several times due to stuttering or pronunciation errors--and include in the video whatever is too inconvenient to speak (for instance: code, links). Videos are also much more difficult to update, and their existence is subject to the whim of whatever host we use. Plus, hosting the videos externally means that they will have more exposure to people outside of /i/, thus having the opposite intended effect, not to mention that there are already numerous videos on being a skiddy that are available on youtube or wherever.

Also, the wiki hasn't been down in several months.

>>1616
And you have an alternative solution? Really! If you're so smart and you have all the answers, then riddle me this:
Even though all the needed info is on the wiki, why are there still people that don't know said info? Hmm? Do you think maybe it's because the info is too fragmented and it's not all there? Do you think people maybe don't want to read the wiki? Answer me, I'd like to know, since you're so wise and so much more intelligent than I am.
Honestly, what makes you think you can speak for everyone? If YOU don't want to make the videos, and if YOU don't want to find a way to distribute them, and if YOU don't want to contribute to the plan, then DON'T. Really. We don't need you to make this happen. Go away.
You obviously haven't thought this through, as well.
A. Some people are actually willing to do some work (Shocking, I know).
B. The videos can be made so that we have to give them to people. i.e. not publicly listed. We don't even have to use a host.
C. Videos that teach people how to be a skiddy are too numerous, and often badly made/misleading/etc., and don't explain much more than how to do the shit it's teaching, not how said shit works.
D. I guarantee you the wiki will go down at some point and be down for a while, even if not in one fell swoop.
E. Videos are better than the wiki because it's easier to learn from them and they assist people of different learning styles.
http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://lmgtfy.com/?q=learning+styles
F. Fuck you.

Great idea we need to stop bitching about newfags and make them oldfags with this we will become more powerful than anyone, then we will take over then internet

>>1628
>And you have an alternative solution? Really!

I'm simply pointing out the creating additional work won't solve the problem of laziness.

>Even though all the needed info is on the wiki, why are there still people that don't know said info?

Perhaps they don't know where to look? That is a problem which would be faced with videos as well. Also, perhaps they are simply lazy? Videos are cumbersome when dealing with technical issues (no copy and paste).

>Do you think maybe it's because the info is too fragmented and it's not all there?

Tell me, would you be willing to re-make the same video over and over again to update every inane thing, like you can do instantly with a wiki?

>Do you think people maybe don't want to read the wiki? Answer me, I'd like to know, since you're so wise and so much more intelligent than I am.

What makes you think people would sit through a video of some nasaly geek talking about how to haxor?

>Honestly, what makes you think you can speak for everyone?

It's simply logic. Even in video form, what is to be said still needs to be planned out in advance. This planning stage--writing what is to be said--is essentially identical to what goes on in the wiki. If people can't be bothered to even do this for the wiki, what makes you think they will not only do this--but edit a video together for it?

>Some people are actually willing to do some work (Shocking, I know).

Who? A proper 5 minute video takes nearly an hour to edit.

>The videos can be made so that we have to give them to people. i.e. not publicly listed. We don't even have to use a host.

You're stupid. All videos need a host. What, will they get transfered via magic pixie dust? And if you have everything ad-hoc and decentralized like that, how the fuck is it easier to find the videos than to find a wiki that has had the same address for three years?

>Videos that teach people how to be a skiddy are too numerous, and often badly made/misleading/etc., and don't explain much more than how to do the shit it's teaching, not how said shit works.

There are multiple videos for everything you could possibly want to do. We would merely be re-inventing the wheel with a fawkes mask.

>I guarantee you the wiki will go down at some point and be down for a while, even if not in one fell swoop.

I guarantee you that whatever links to the videos will go down too. Unless you're going to host everything on youtube?

>Videos are better than the wiki because it's easier to learn from them and they assist people of different learning styles.

All I hear is baaaawww


The simple fact is that ten times more effort goes into making a video than making a wiki article, it is much more cumbersome to update, coordinating video location collections faces the same problem with downtime, and there are already video series on doing everything.

>>1546
Assuming all the information partyvan is still available (I haven't checked recently) it would be immensely easy to put this together. As far as the hosting issue goes, I feel that bit torrent is the perfect solution to this. Upload all the information into a torrent file, and put the torrent file on TPB or another tracker. Make a sticky designed to gather the attention of newfags and individuals interested in learning, and link them to the torrent file. If you want an army as well equipped as we were back in 2006, you're going to have to make learning easy. This training video project would take time and effort, but if it was put together it would have an undeniably positive effect on Anonymous. We still have the numbers that we had all those years ago, just not the know-how.

>>1583
googling "insurgency" is all you need for a direct link

1)
>"The only thing more prevalent on the internet than a$$holes are idiots with idiot conspiracy theories, and this "news" article is no exception. They're cynically pandering to the lowest common denominator while exploiting two highly popular search terms, the beebs and 4chan. But using salacious rumors to get pageviews? There's many absurd conspiracy theories, but you take it to a whole new level. What you're claiming is even worse than saying reptilians rule the world. A bunch of 15 year olds repeating "lolol fag epic fail meme" taking over and controlling the internet? Dumbest conspiracy theory I'd ever heard."

DON'T just copypasta, add your own flavor, personalize it but MAKE IT BELIEVABLY RATIONAL. The subtle reference to a meme should be subtler or not there at all, but is included to hint to other Anons to get on board with the idea. This is how Just1n Bi3ber should've been approached, and all other raids. No more ebaums. See here, and notice that the guy white knighting (tm anon) comes off as some kind of paranoid nutjob http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://news.cnet.com/8601-13515_3-10279618-0.html?communityId=2026&targetCommunityId=2026&blogId=26&tag=mncol

There are many approaches, but "tinfoil hat" "conspiracy theory" "Illuminati" "reptilians" "moonbats" "kooks" etc. are some useful phrases.

2) Discredit via association with absurdity http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111458 if we get enough conspiracy theorists ranting about 4chan being some mind control device of the reptilian illuminati, and attempting to expose our raids, then no one is going to take this shit seriously. The best part is, the more they rant, the more unbelievable any news story, and the stories start getting dropped.

Bawker is being handled all fucking wrong. If these guys don't give a shit about the cult threatening lawsuits, wtf makes you think they'll be intimidated by us? Besides, and as is plainly obvious, it just encourages them to have a grudge and write more about us.

tl;dr Stay on the nicer side of journalists, but ridicule the tinfoil conspiracy theories floating around about creative, bored, borderline retarded nerds while encouraging conspiracy theorists to rant nonstop about the illuminati alien 4chan conspiracy.

>>1637
Yes. And we could also put the .rar in a .jpeg, but we shouldn't assume they know how to get it, which is what the torrent/rapidshit is for.
>>1636
Fine! Once again, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HELP, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. You can fucking leave. Go ahead, seriously, leave. We don't need you. Go away, fucktard.

I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but the gist of what I have read I'm really interested in.

I just found this site today. I've had an interest in being a part of the things you guys do since I was younger, and have now taken an active role in discovering what I need to know.

I don't want fame, I just want to have some fucking fun, fucking with people, and generally helping the cause - whatever that may be.

However I am definately a newfag and could use some tutoring in the standards and specific rules.

Anyway, just wanted to say I support the OP's idea but I know my opinion isn't shit.

Is this not just partyvan.info and the late insurgen.info made into video form? I mean really, if you're too much of a faggot to read the articles you probably shouldn't know how to do this sort of shit anyway. I mean its like handing a gun to an idiot and saying have fun. OH WAIT-

I actually didn't know about those sites until I happened across them after I made that post. After reading through them I am kind of curious about what the point of a video is.

I really wasn't pushing for videos in the first place, I just think it's a good idea to point capable folks in the right direction.

However, I suppose capable folks will find their way if they're truly capable and interested in this - as I did...

Regardless, I posted my stupid opinion too and should retract it.

There are already a few video tutorials on YouJewb but imo they are fail, I don't think we should teach newfags what they CAN do, we should teach them what they CAN'T do, if we teach them how to hax and etc... they will still be newfags and they will tell their friends about how awesome it is to be a ZOMG H4XX0R when they do nothing but use dox to crack their friend's mySpace accounts, ie: doing it for themselves and not for the chan,

You obviously don't have to listen to my bullshit but I think you know that what's worse than Anonymous being destroyed is Anonymous being changed into something like IRL society (which is why we are discussing this in the first place) and one more thing, how can we be Anonymous when the newfags take credit on our behalf? Every time a raid is documented by some shit YouTube celebrity, the newfags lol and say "dammit I love 4chan" and advertise 4chan by saying that, cancer is contagious and rules 1 and 2 should be enforced with an iron penis and rules 1 and 2 doesn't only apply to raids only it should apply to everything because we are not as powerful as we once were.

The vid: http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lu8ySKcKLo

guys... you realise, if you read the very first post, that videos are not the entire plan. you guys are actually ignoring the majority of the plan. mainly
>mods ban fags

aside form that, sure, the information is already available on the wikis, but videos are still a good idea. we could put them in a .rar or something and have them listed on the wiki (inb4 BUT DA WIKI ALREADY HAS DA INFO). i mean, really, videos would be much better than the wiki. if you don't want to help make them that's fine, other people will do it. but why not do it? they'd be very effective.

>>1546
The problem with this plan is that if our enemies/raid targets got ahold of those videos, they'd know all of our scret techniques and methods and possibly start using them against us.

The problem is that people no longer work for the hivemind anymore. My personal motto concerning Anon is that "you as an entity do not exist, only your work does", which is what i use as an incentive to create OC and keep lurking, so that we can move on to fucking with bigger and better things, for no reason except the lulz, however cliche that might sound. Too many people these days find the *chans and think "Hey, i can use these people as my personal army" or "Hey, i should start tripfagging so i can get a name within anonymous and be a 1337 famous haxx0r to boost my e-peen". People need to know that you do not matter. No-one will notice or care if you use your right to vanish right now, because if you were doinitrite, you were never there to begin with.

First off, I would like to announce that I have just found this site as well, through the wiki. Second, I could talk about how why I am here, how I am here for the lulz and not to gather fame, but I am anonymous, I could be lying, and there would be no point to me trying hard to prove my motives (as if posting my motives was "proving" it).

Regarding the original idea, I would very much like this. I have been interested in taking part in raids (other than "charging the LOIC"), but have lacked the knowledge. In terms of raids, I am a newfag. Yeah, I know. I don't know much, but I'm willing to learn. I will assist in whatever way possible. I began combing through the wiki last night, trying to absorb as much as I can - but live help is always better than text.

>>1672
Completely agree with the motto. It's amazing really, how much truth is behind the majority of channers these days.

>>1664
Also, to digress for a second, that whole "Rules 1 & 2 are for raids only" is bullshit. Absolutely bullshit. I have no idea where it came from, but when I found people writing "rules 1 and 2 only apply to raids, newfag" all over youtube, I shat myself. Seriously? Fuck man, come on. "Enforced with an iron penis", seconded.

Power does not always come through numbers, it comes through people doing whatever is necessary and within their power to help the cause and to prevent self-destruction. A small fraction of anon participating in a raid can make it seem like a giant wave is crashing down on the enemy.

I'll do my best to pop on IRC when I can.

>>1672 That's true, people namefag too much for fame, just go to 000chan you'll see "Soaring's guide on how to troll Christians", if he wasn't doing it for fame he wouldn't have put the "Soaring's guide" part.

>>1673 At least you know your shit, never leave the wiki, you can never learn enough, check out partyvan.info on how to raid, it's pretty easy unless you want to do some serious damage.

>>1669
They can get ahold of the wiki, too, so I don't really see how it's different as long as they're not just out there like being public on YouTube.

I'm working on some possible rough drafts of scripts for the videos. I'll have some in a few days.

In the meantime, I propose some new rules for the /i/s:

- Talking about /i/ outside of /i/ is strictly forbidden. Sentence will be a 5-day ban. (not that we can enforce this, it's more symbolic.)
- Requesting a PA raid will get you a week-long ban and your IP dropped.
- Being a moralfag will get you a week-long ban.
- Asking for a raid on moral reasons will get you a week-long ban and your IP dropped. Unless it involves kittens.
- Suggesting Anonymous has a reputation to protect like >>1574 did will get you a 4-day ban.
- Being a fag for reasons that don't fall under the above rules will result in a ban with a length at the discretion of the mods.


I feel like it might be a little strict, but it's not concrete of course. Suggestions?

But if people who wanted to destroy Anon or get revege on them (ie, furfags) got ahold of those videos, they might attempt to use the techniques contained within back on ourselves, and hit us with a taste of our own medicine, if you will.

>>1685
Also, what if a NORP were to see these videos? Just because they know the skills and have the resources doens't mean they're necessarily going to use those techniques for our own benefit. They might use them to become their own personal army. People with no affiliation with Anon could learn to be skiddies and start fucking up anybody they hate over the slightest thing, while crediting it to us because they think they're part of some sort of super 1337 underground faggotfaceer group.

Adittionaly, if enemies of the lulz saw these videos they could be more prepared for our raiding methods. "Okay, so in this video Anon uses psyops to coerce admins into giving them access and information to things regular members cannot get, and then use DerpDerpOS attacks to get our site down. I'm going to harden the fuck out of my site and deny membership to any new people for the next 6 months!"

>Implying newfags don't enjoy being cancer and want to learn

>>1685
>>1688
>implying anyone worth their weight in shit doesn't know our techniques anyway

Furfags and twilightfags and the like aren't smart enough to find our wiki/IRC/videos, and people like the Australian government know how we do things anyway. And since it would be just as easy to get to the information without the videos, I don't see why this matters. It's not like we'll be making the videos available to anyone who happens to stumble upon them, like YouTube.

In my small & probably irrelevant opinion, under no circumstances should you spoon feed newfags. Here is my reason; they miss out on the most valuable lesson and that my friends, is patience.

[tinhat]Or maybe the hidden agenda here is to create cannon fodder..[/tinhat]

All I am saying is that knowledge is easily gained with the plethora of sources. Call it an intelligence based security measure.

>>1693 I have one suggestion, like I said before, I don't think it is wise to teach newfags what they should do (or how to do things (eg: how to raid and how to uncover secret .rars hidden in .jpgs)) but instead we should teach them what they shouldn't do, by giving a newfag knowledge we are arming him and he might use that weapon against us,

But the message that you should deliver in those videos, the one that everyone should understand clearly is DO NOT FUCKING TALK ABOUT 4CHAN (fuck /b/, it's beyond redemption, we must quarantine it and concentrate on preventing the cancer from reaching other boards and other chans, prevention is the best cure, we will take care of /b/ later when times aren't so tough), don't tell them why we can't talk about it (because that will obviously reveal our you-know-what), tell them if they lurk more and are serious that they want to be associated with us then they will find the answer themselves without anyone's help, so just tell them they can't even boast about how "OH L0L 4CHAN PWN3D JU5TIN B31B3R THAT IS SO COOL", so I hope you know what I mean.

If we can get people together who can edit video, someone who can write scripts (I can help), and someone who can speak/record (plz2have british accent), then I will make a wiki page (with link on sidebar) that links to the channel.

I'm decent with Gimp, if you need templates (for instance, the screen to show up during the show, unless someone has a green screen in which case more work is required for awesomeness).

If we do make these videos of actual people, instead of the cliche Fawkes mask thing, how about:

* turban
** or balaclava
* Suit
* Droog mask/outfit (pic related)

Has someone made anything in the w/i/ki? This should be organized there.

as a long term newfag/retard I for one would really appreciate videos that can help me refine the simple stuff I have been doing and also delve into some really destructive shit, wiki is great and have learned alot but as a result of being skull fucked by god i learn better by seeing and I do really want to learn.
I also really want to fuck a midget but this is neither the time nor the place

This is good comrades. Communication is the first key to a stronger anonymous. Rockstarchan will be the apotheosis of w/i/n.

>>1703
I'd like to point out that some faggot named "WhispersSecrets" on a CNET article regarding OP Shitter posted a link to the insurgen wiki. The only way we can reasonably deal with this is to associate those idiots with David Icke fanboys so no one will even bother to check the link and just dismiss such white knight faggots as paranoid tinhat cranks. This is the only way we can maintain 0PSEC at this point. Fuck, just google bomb "4chan satanic/Illuminati/Reptilian conspiracy" or whatever. Discredit the white knghts to the point where they come off as paranoid nutjobs (believe me, they eventually will) and our problem will be solved. Make allusions to the Protocols of Zion scapegoating Jews or whatever the fuck, and it'll get fewer stories published, and the commentors will be dismissed as moonbats. Combine this with educating newfags to our ways, and we'll be solid.

I started an article for you guys

http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://partyvan.info/wiki/Operation:_Rising_Sun

Anonymity mode is off for now, but tell me if you want it on.

OP you still watching this?are videos currently in the works by OP or any other oldfag?

>>1718 Seconded, if you go to Google and type in "4chan il" you'll get "4chan Illuminati" in 2nd place, so we can consider that a head-start,

>>1719 Cleaned the article a bit and made a better version of the flag and in wallpaper size.

This sounds like a great idea. I am also new to this board, but not to faggotfaceing. Videos would come in handy, and yes i agree the mods should ban the idiots.

the partyvan page for Operation: Rising Sun is still very much disorganized. It just states what we want to do instead of states how we should go about doing it. Also I think somewhere in our partyvan page we need to make a clause with greater emphasis on bringing more members to our Axis of Evil (RSC/711chan/legi0n) that maintains an active /i/ board while still filtering out the cancer. THAT I think will be our most difficult action, trying to advertise ourselves while at the same time not advertising ourselves. Sort of like a non-gay version of Dan Brown's take on the Path of Illumination.

has anyone with the knowledge and skill-base needed actually made a start on the videos, or plans to? there has been lots of talk but no affirmative action which is a massive shame

>>1754
>>1755
http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://partyvan.info/wiki/Operation:_Rising_Sun#What_we_need

>>1755 I dunno who's going to edit the videos but he's our most important guy (I actually thought OP was going to do it), I can make templates/screens and artwork for the vids but without someone who can actually make them I'm useless,

If we can't find anyone then maybe we can try find some anons on YouTube who have experience and send them a link to this thread?

HERP DERP ANON IS SERIOUS BUSINESS GUISE

(This srs enough?)
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>>1744
Yeah, I'm still here. I had to leave for a bit to help my friends move their furniture and go to an anime-con, but I'm back now.

Holy shit I feel good guys thanks for listening to me.

>>1762
I don't have shit for editing software yet. I'm looking around so maybe - maybe - I can edit.
I can do scripts, though.

>>1766
>>1765
art,scripting and possibly editing,it's all coming together boys!
unfortunately i have no skills to contribute <--newfag
but am very excited by the prospect of this

Maybe someone should talk to neko about adding a newfagtube.
just saying.

>>1769
We getting that; in the works.

>>1769

We should get some content before we start devoting resources to a place to *put* the content.

>>1772
Well it won't be dedicated just for /i/ stuff. Also for many chan stuff.

Nonetheless it's on the planning board still so we haven't done anything.

>>1773
Dedicated to other chan stuff in what way, comrade? Are you trying to make it half and RSC raid archive and half ED?

>>1784
Meaning a video archive for channers ain't a bad idea. Jewtube fags it up when it comes to uploading original raid content by removing videos. What better way to host videos of epic raids/trolls than a vid site dedicated it to it.

This is the first time my feet has touched the holy grounds of rockstararmy.com and I am liking what I am seeing. This is relevant to my interests, please continue.

>>1785
like the Evidence Library?

>>1553
r3x will not be a part of this

>>1790
who said anything about r3x?

>>1846
That was in reference to people taking over /i/.
Cuz everyone knows (or should atleast know) that r3x was a HUEG fag and and tried to control everything.

>>1863
r3x doesn't exist on this site or partyvan for that matter.

It's been taken over by the Rockstar Military and r3x and Relentless have been executed via decree of the powers to be.

You missed the revolution. Why do you think everything looks and acts differently.

>>1864
I was refering to r3x being batshit crazy and trying to control everything during that period.

>>1863
Opposite is true, 888 became popular but it was always shunned by pv (for example it was by far the most active /i/ but admins refused to put it in the sidebar) and pv also had shit uptime, so 888 did the obvious thing and revolted and made its own insurgency wiki, which happened to become more popular (ie it was better).

There was no power whoring involved.

The tards who were (and still are) butthurt about this were the ones trying to control everything.

>>1864
Relentless is admin in #partyvan and bureau on pv.info. In what way could he be termed as "executed"?

Newfag to the site with networking background. Reporting for training.

>>1870

>Opposite is true, 888 became popular but it was always shunned by pv (for example it was by far the most active /i/ but admins refused to put it in the sidebar)

It was actually on the sidebar, or at least on the list of /i/ boards, until the first substantial downtime caused the split with insurgen.info.

>so 888 did the obvious thing and revolted and made its own insurgency wiki, which happened to become more popular (ie it was better).

Actually, r3x had been hosting partyvan.info, but due to some drama by mooncup and relentless, r3x kicked relentless off the box. Then there was some drama between januszeal and r3x, which led to partyvan.info no longer being pointed at r3x's wiki.

R3x then registered insurgen.cc (later insurgen.info), while partyvan.info got pointed to a new wiki (using an old backup I think) that was run by a totally different staff of people (part of this was also the chatnets-partyvan irc split).

I actually made myself scarce for the last year or so, so I can't really testify as to what all happened specifically.

YES

FOR FUCKS SAKE YES

i dont want this place to end up like /b/.

we have to go through with this.

>>1876
>It was actually on the sidebar, or at least on the list of /i/ boards, until the first substantial downtime caused the split with insurgen.info.

It played back up to 711chan until the "/i/ boards sidebar" thing came in, in which 888 was omitted in favour of januszeal's netchan. Then there was a big deal about adding 888chan to the sidebar or something orchestrated by "maxwell" or somebody, but before anything was done the wiki went down for the p long time.

I wasn't aware of the exact pv/insurgen details but I don't think he can be accused of major controlfaggotry in either set of events...

any videos/site for videos yet?

>>1885
r3x didn't want existing tools he demanded that new tools be created even if they served the same purpose.He became completely overzealous and was never satisfied.

>>1894
Thankfully we have new leaders running RSC and Partyvan.

Reason this site is my alt to 4chan.

>>1895
>new leaders for RSC
wat.
me and dark been here since the beginning back in 07. as for pv, afaik it's pretty close to the same staff it was before 888chan was made

>>1896
I'm sure that they weren't speaking of you or RSC. But instead anon.

>>1894
clutching at straws now bro...

>>1896
bonus points for no Kakama ;)

>fixing Anonymous by way of "training"
>mention of "leaders"
>bitching about newfags.

Ooooh, boy, do we have some ground to cover here...
Firstly: To learn anything on the internet, you can google. Seriously. I have never learned anything useful from the insurgency wiki. All it does is give skiddies LOIC, and make them think they're hot shit. It's good for co-ordinating raids, but as for actually learning? No. That's one of the reasons /i/ is currently fail, because the people raiding aren't the intelligent bastards who would find these things separately in the past. If you nanny something, it'll turn into a flaming fucking retard, which is what has happened to Anonymous. There needs to be discussion, not looking at a wiki page with instructions on how to DerpDerpOS; you need to learn how to think in these situations, and not just learn facts.

In any case, though, it doesn't matter, because Anonymous is a self-evolving mass that you cannot control or really change.

As for "leaders", people like r3x, januszeal, and the like are not "leaders". Consider them more like janitors or housekeepers. They keep everything running, but are, in the end, completely fucking useless and non-essential to the existence of the *chans, and can be discarded just as easily as I can.

>newfags
You're all newfags. Each and every one of you. I'm a newfag, and I've been here longer than you, I am smarter than you, I have done more than you, and I have done it all while fucking your mother. Except I can't prove any of it, so it didn't happen, and I have absolutely no identity. Stop whining about oldfags, newfags, middlefags. You have no identity. At all. These people you despise and think are talentless? They are, and always have been, cannon fodder. They are the zerg rush.

Finally, about making the /i/nsurgency harder to find; Anonymous, by nature, is open to all comers. If you fuck with that, you're going to be left with a lonely circlejerk.

(Welcome to RockstarChan, we don't take your 4chan bullshit here.)
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>>1910

Looks like someone took image macros about anon too seriously and thinks it is really some new internet zeitgeist and social phenomena, and that their secret treehouse fort can only be joined by people who cling to the PURE image of anonymous.

D E R P

>>1910
>(Welcome to RockstarChan, we don't take your 4chan bullshit here.)
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LOL! God I love the admins here.

>>1910
tl;dr, i just skipped to the red bit

>>1910
I lol'd.

What the fuck are you doing? I can't even describe the level of fail this operation has. Fucking training videos for Newfags? Has no-one heard of the phrase LURK MOAR YOU FUCKING RETARD?

(A common phrase of 4Chan, you must be trailing cancer from 4chan...)
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>>1994
you first

As a newfag who solemnly knows basic HTML faggotfaceing, I'd love the training videos. Hell or any articles on the topic.

I know about partyvan but the only way to lurk it is constantly clicking "Random Page", hoping for a good topic to show up.

>>2015
that's why there's a search box on the sidebar :)
and if there's anything you are unable to find, you can request it. good chance that someone on the wiki knows about it

Ok so I may have a someone lined up to do the vids that is a pro. We just need to decide on content and a place to put.

>>2015

There are a crapton of articles on the front page organized by category...

>>2025

There are any number of free video hosting sites, plus auto-uploaders like sharebee. Hosting isn't a problem, unless you wanted our own video hosting server--in which case, you pay for it :p

I'd just add a section on partyvan.info for the video series. Probably on the Community Portal.

>>2025
Well...
First we need a script for our first subject.
Here's my proposal for video subjects and order:

1. How not to be a faggot (/i/ info, etiquitte, forbidden raid types)
2. Basic networking
3. Attack methods/tools
4. Google-fu / doxing
5. Operating systems
6. Some HTML (doesn't need to be huge because of w3)
6. Final thoughts?


Those are my ideas. I'm not sure if we need to do cell phone tech, but it might be a good idea for the future.

If everyone's cool with that order, we can get started on making a script for How to not be a Faggot.


ALSO: PROPS TO THE MODS FOR >>1910 AND >>1994
<3 U

Oh I see. I looked into and read just about every partyvan article now.

Unfortunately I didn't find much on network faggotfaceing...brute forcing FTP passwords, faggotfaceing admin accounts, SQL injections, rooting, website exploits, defacing, etc.

Id love to see some articles on that.

>>2030
It needs to be specific because he is not one of us. Thou he is a close friend and trusted.

>>2033
>network faggotfaceing...
http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://partyvan.info/wiki/Sniffing
>brute forcing FTP passwords,
http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://partyvan.info/wiki/Brute_Forcing
>faggotfaceing admin accounts
This requires Social Engineering
>SQL injections, rooting, website exploits, defacing, etc.
Article is needed on how to maximize using website exploits so you can either make sql injections to take over/steal passwords or put up a phpshell so it can easily rooted.

>>1763
Welcome to /i/, may I take your order? Might I suggest a large "Get the Fuck Out"? Order before noon, and you'll get a super-sized "Shut the Fuck Up" for free!

So who is willing to help on getting the script started?

The only way to bring back the good old days is to carry on as if it was the good old days. We did this to ourselves guise.

I see all of these methods do nothing but backfire and allow fags to fantasise even more about what Anonymous is REALLY about.

Anonymous is about the lulz, remember? So if we focus on milking lulzcows instead of this abstract SHIT the newfags will learn how it goes and the oldfags will come back.

After Chanology, all our beloved Oldfags left because of the cancer. It merely got boring. If we got them to come back, we need not worry about the cancer anymore.

Good luck with your op. I'm not in, though

>>2041
>carry on as if it was the good old days
>After Chanology, all our beloved Oldfags left because of the cancer

fundamental flaw in your logic

>>2041
>After Chanology

More like after /b/day amirite

At first i disapproved of this idea, because i thought it might promote the notion that you shouldn't lurk, and also that NORPs and people not associated with Anon could watch the videos and get the wrong impression, as well as the fact that newfags who think they ARE oldfags are very hard to talk into having any other kind of opinions or viewpoints. I feared that if these videos were not made by people who were oldfags or the information within them was not checked, that the videos could be misinforming potentially hundreds of newfags, who would then spread that incorrect/outdated info to more people, which would lead to a problem even worse than people not knowing anything. As a newfag myself however, i have found that there are not many places to lurk anymore that actually provide any kind of information or knowledge to help you (aside form the partyvan wiki and a few *chans), so these videos will be useful to me when (if) they are completed. One concern i have however is if these videos were leaked to a mainstream site like YouTube, where thousands of faggots could view them, find the /i/nsurgency and then start thinking they were all oldfags. But OTOH, i guess if newfags actually watched the video, and paid attention to it instead of watching 5 minutes of it and jumping in (which would be bound to happen), i don't really see how this operation could fail in turning newfags into pretty cool guys, aside from the possibility of misinformation or leaking of the videos to people who would not be willing to learn, ie cancerfags. So just make sure these videos are moderated and restricted in their circulation, and i think this Operation has a good chance of succeeding. Unfortunately i don't really think i can contribute to the production of these as i don't know shit and am one of the many people who needs to watch something like this, but i'm bored and wanted to throw in my 2 cents.

>>2061
>throw in my 2 cents.
Threw in a dime :)

And yes I do agree with you on this one this is a double edge sword, but with the right educative videos, the right set of mods on the chan and the wiki, and right timing we can make something happen.

Looks like this is coming together nicely... And so are we... *snicker*

I'll start on a script tomorrow, but as for now I have to fap and then bed.

>>2063
If you provide the vid,
Then we will just need a place to put it.
(i dont have an RS account)

>>2064
In my opinion rapidshits is not a grand file sharing site. I would suggest maybe megaherpload, there are of course better ones, but anything is better than RS.

Sorry this new epc is being gay.
If you provide teh script i will have my friend make the vid

>>1574
Not to intrude on this chans discussion....but someone brought this thread to my attention in an unrelated irc. 000chan is coming out with software in the next few weeks that will do exactly that. You will be able to operate through every single *chan at one time seemlessly. Maybe they could be of help?

Maybe this will help?

>>2072
explain to me how new software will make those goals. I bet it will be buggier than what trevor originally coded

>>2072

How is that any different whatsoever from any of the Overchan clones?

what you just explained is already posted on partyvan.ino newfag gtfo

ITT: Rockstarchan taking themselves way too fucking seriously

inb4 ban

(in after ban for you taking shit too seriously)

>>2072
With them talking shit about this op, I don't think so. See pic
>>2092
get back to your shitcan chan

(Trying to start a Chan war are we...)
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waiting on scripts.
also any input on themes and aesthetics

>>2167
>themes and aesthetics

Think: soviet CNN

>scripts

Pretty much you can just find a well-written w/i/ki article and speak most of it verbatim, maybe changing the verbiage slightly to first person or whatnot. Wall of text articles are best:

http://its.goofyti.me/u/http://partyvan.info/wiki/Making_Propaganda

>>2063
How is the script doing?

>>1546

This sounds great. I've been looking for an active /i/ board for some time since 888 went down. A lot of us went over to Tinychan to continue the Kimmo Wars, but then Tinychan went down and people kind of dispersed.

Anyways, instead of re-inventing the wheel, how about we use some of the faggotfacethissite.org stuff? We make a training program where people agree to complete a certain amount of the faggotfacethissite exercises by a certain time, ect., or whatever. There's already info out there; we just need to aggregate it and make it digestible.

>>2241

lol wordfilter. I meant h a c kthissite.org

Incoming WALL OF TEXT.
I would like to start by saying I am green as grass, all I got under my belt is basic doxin­g, and a limited capacity of human understanding, and critical thinking skills. I've been on and off the chans for a few years, spent most of that time on 888, f­uc­k r3x, good community otherwise.
After briefly reading over this article, as well as the enclosed rar. I would say you have my full support.

I feel we are focusing to much on the "training" and feel that this is the logical last step, roughly.

Lets look at this plan like a pyramid.
When building a pyramid the first step is the base (no shit rite?1!)
Our pyramid's base is not training new people.
No, ironically, I feel our base literally is our base of operations.

In short we need to secure a location (singular preferable), now I'm not suggesting a '*chan war', I'm just saying we have plenty of people that are spread over many sites. For this reason lots of my 'chan time' is helping communicate between *chans. I'm fine with doing this, and know I'm not alone in my efforts. But clearly life would be easier with a single, out of the way location.
How?
Fuck if I know, its not the most important step, and can be skipped, but it seemed worth mentioning.

More importantly strengthening the base(es).
As mentioned by OP and others, make idiocy a temp. bannable offense.
I don't think we can cure cancer with BANdages, but it sure as hell helps. So make idiot-proof rules, OP more or less did this, now they just need to be edited and enforced.

While working on that make the base invisible, kill links to the site, and get our asses off radar (google).
You can do that by
A. filtering key words
B. avoid spelling out the names of targets
C. if necessary (this may seem obvious... and extreme) Don't even have a single word typed. Just open up fucking paint, photoshop, whatever type your message there and post it. That will clear us right off google, yet I doubt it will ever happen.
D. shoot any fool that mentions /i/ anywhere.

(Insert other necessary base strengthening shit here)

At this point start the long process of weeding out the weak, mainly nam­efag­s, Mor­alf­ags, count­er-troll­s, and lul­zkille­rs.
Don't get rid of the ill-educated, in some cases it's not their fault. This is where we should implement training and hazing.
Yes. Hazing.
This will avoid the hand-holding we must avoid, and remove of the last of the imperfections in the gem that will be the anon. I suggest once these programs are in effect that everyone goes through them. I'm sure I will spend lots of time there myself.

After basic training, to fine tune ones skill set, boards with topics ranging from phy-ops to h­ac­king should be suggested.

Through out each step of the program it should be reminded both directly, and indirectly that while here you have no name, no face, you are not different or better then anyone else.
You will not seek credit nor attention for your work, or the works of the group. When an OP is a success, don't mention /i/, 4­chan, not even ebaums (everyone by now knows what that means) you know nothing about what happened.
As a wise man said above this post
>You as an entity do not exist, only your work does
Feel free to add anything I may have missed, constructive criticism is highly requested, as it will only shape me into a better tool for the groups needs.

>In short we need to secure a location (singular preferable)
we already have a base partyvan

>>2366
Was referring to a chan as a base.
It seems, to me at least, an easier way to have fast communication.
For example tell me, what do you go to more, ____chan or partyvan? For me, it's chans. Don't get me wrong I go to partyvan too, just raids that are there are generally added AFTER it's been put on a chan.
What is the faster way to spread news on/learn of, a raid or OP? The fastest way to discuss it? And add or edit information for it?
Not to bash your contribution, just tying to clarify mine.
and really the TL;DR of my other post was just that I feel we should change the order of our priorities.
Followed by why.
If you have anything against it, that's good. I would love to hear what you think is a better order of operation, followed by why, and if possible try to make suggestions or ideas that back your post.
I eagerly await a logical response. in the near future.

>>2367
I love rushing and putting a name into the email field instead. It makes me look so organized and smart.
Not to na­me­fa­g it up, just figured it would be easier to identify myself and my posts in the event of a drawn out debate (lets hope it does not come to that). This name was the first to come to mind. And will quickly be discarded of, as soon as there is an end to this debate.

Ex-888fag here

Supporting this thread as a demonstration there are still others out there waiting for the single word that the /i/nvasion is back online.